17th December 2007

New Workstation- Part 1 Antec P182 Case

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I’ve got my new workstation built and am writing on it at the moment. The hardware part is all done I think so its time to start some observations while I get all my software installed and setup.

Before I go onto details of the build and some comments on the parts, I’ll mention that I did manage to overclock it to 4.0ghz (quad core), which I think is pretty cool. I suspect I’ll bring it back to 3.66ghz or so in a bit to run a little cooler since that extra little bit doesn’t actually matter, but as a milestone it was pretty fun ti hit. If I think about it, I had my first 3ghz machine probably 4 or 5 years ago and I think I got a 3.6ghz machine 3 years ago just about this time of year. Of course that was the old slower P4 architecture and only single-core (although HyperThreaded), so this machine is probably well over 4x the performance of those machines.

The Antec P182 Case


Overall I’m very disappointed with the Antec P182 case that I got. Before I get into the details lets say that this is a big case. It has 6+ 3.5″ drive bays, 4 5.25″ drive bays, and is supposed to have plenty of room for everything. Overall the situation for PC cases is just pitiful. Compared to the Mac Pro they all are pretty bad. You get the gamer-cases that are all dressed up with wacky windows and plastic demon skulls. And you get other cases that various people tried to design but pretty much none of them are done with any skill or taste.

This case is for my new main workstation. This is going to be a high performance computer and I’m starting with 4 hard-drives although only a couple of PCI cards (video and sound). The case needs to provide for clean cabling, good cooling, not be super-loud (but my office already has enough fans that it doesn’t need to be silent or anything) and I’d like it to look decent.

So to recap, I’m looking for-

  • Plenty of space
  • Easy expandability
  • Looks decent
  • Good cooling
  • Not loud

  • Empty Antec P182 case before install


    The parts for the computer came in a few at a time, so I started putting things together before everything arrived. The power-supply goes in the bottom of the P182. Pretty quickly I’m hitting trouble as its a real pain to jam the thing in there. Even worse, there is a nice fan in the bottom in between the bottom drive-bay and the power-supply, but its getting in the way of the cables coming out of the power supply. Later on I end up having to take this fan out because the situation is even worse on the drive side, with the drive cables (power and SATA) are impossible to get out of jamming the fan. The picture to the left is before I removed the fan and you can see how tight it is.

    Again, let me point out that this is a very big case. Not the biggest, but its the biggest I have. In a SFF system you can excuse a certain amount of jamming things in. In a large tower case the designers are supposed to have figured this stuff out so that things can be put together without creating a problem.

    This may be a situation where the case designers have not caught up yet with modern parts. I suspect it might work with old IDE style drives but the SATA connectors stick straight out more and need more room behind the drive bay. To be clear, with the Antec P182 its hard to not bend your SATA power connectors to the point where they break. This picture shows the drive bay with out the fan- the metal bar at the top of the picture is where the fan would be and you can see how much the power cables would be bent if it were still there.

    Another issue (which points to a similar blind spot) is that all the fans have old-IDE style power connectors rather than headers which attach to the motherboard. These are bigger and mean that your motherboard can’t monitor and control the fan speed. The case has some nice external switches that let you adjust fan speed, but the ideal situation is to have the motherboard automatically adjust it based on the internal temperatures so it can crank up when you are gaming and run quiet the rest of the time.

    The fit for the motherboard itself is also fairly tight, again given the size of the overall case. There are some baffles that let you separate out the bottom power-supply/drive section from the main section, but they get in the way of the bottom of the motherboard (where Asus puts the USB/Firewire and front-panel connectors).


    Finally, if you get this motherboard you need to make sure that your power-supply has a long enough 12V cable. Normal cases put the power-supply at the top of the case which will end up being close to where the 12V connector is on the motherboard, so the power-supplies tend to not make this cable long enough. The P182 does make a nice provision to run the main power-connectors behind the motherboard to keep them out of the way of the expansion cards, cooling, but my 12V cable was at least 4″ too short and so I couldn’t actually get things working inside the case until I bought an extension. You can see the extension cable in the bottom right of the picture. This part from Amazon is exactly what you need to fix this situation-


    The last thing that was a trouble during install was that I couldn’t figure out how to mount my DVD drive in the external bays. I was probably just being stupid but the manual is (as usual) horrible at providing any useful information on this stuff. It was not clear whether you insert the drive from the inside or the outside, other than that the inside is blocked by the motherboard. My first attempt to insert it from the outside got stuck because I put the mounting rails on backwards- it turns out that the clips go towards the outside of the case which (to me) is non-obvious.

    Finally, some observations on the case now that it is all put together. Overall once it is put together it seems very nice. The big thing I’d look for differently is that it is a pain having the DVD drive inside a fold-out door. To insert/remove disks you need to open the door and put it in. I’d much rather just have external access to the drive so the front-door thing ends up being a pain overall.

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  1. 1 On January 26th, 2008, BillyBodgit said:

    Aha!! So that’s how I get the dvd drive in there. I would never have guessed. I was ready to dismont the mobo.

    I’ve also had problems with the screw holes on the PSU and rear mounting bracket not lining up.

    But thanks to your help I’m solving the problems one by one.

  2. 2 On April 23rd, 2008, Mattie said:

    Yes, I bought a HD3870X2 and it was a real pain to get it in there. I still haven’t mounted the hard drive yet because we didn’t figure out how to install it in the bays below. In the upper bay it can only be mounted up or below and in both ways my graphical card couldn’t get in. Now we’ll have to see how to figure out that problem.

  3. 3 On April 24th, 2008, Alex said:

    The trick I used for the hard-drives in the lower bay is that I removed the extra fan in-between those drives and the power supply. The cables just don’t work with that fan in there. So far things appear to be running sufficiently cool…

  4. 4 On May 18th, 2008, ralph said:

    I have a P182, I think its fine.
    My PSU fits perfectly in the PSU cage with no overhang out the back and all the cables are all plenty long enough to go around the back. I have all SATA cables in the bottom drive bay and no fan fouling going on at all.
    I think you must have a big PSU, and some recalcitrant cables.
    As to the fans… I wondered about their reasoning for this too. If it bothers me I’ll replace them.
    As to Mac cases being better - well try opening a PowerMac 8500 (I had one… to install memory the whole thing needed disassembly) and my QuickSilver G4 was OK… but cramped/awkward with the mobo folded out for putting more HDs etc. Mac Mini case anyone? ;-)
    Apple has some nice cases and design, but unlike aftermarket PC case mfgs they know EXACTLY whats going in them and that stuff goes in at manufacture time.

  5. 5 On May 31st, 2008, Little Mike said:

    Thank you for this! I couldn’t figure out why my DVD burner would not sit flush for the life of me! Now I know that you have to spin the rails around so that the clips face front.

    I completely agree with you too that the instructions suck. “Outside of the case” to me means the left and right sides, not the front or back :P

  6. 6 On June 1st, 2008, BossDrum said:

    I agree that the lack of space and a “fan guard” on the lower fan does make it very hard to get drive cables positioned without blocking the fan.

    Having said that, I STRONGLY recommend taking the time and effort to route the cables such the the fan is operational. In my case that meant using twist ties to “bundle” the 4 SATA together cables up into the mobo compartment and running the power cables through the “notch” at the bottom rear of the case.

    In my case running Windows Home Server with 4 SATA drives down below I had drive temperatures of 149°-164°F without the fan (granted, it was a pretty warm day). Enabling the fan brought temperatures down to 109°-116°F within 45 minutes and under the same disk load.

  7. 7 On September 4th, 2008, JimBob said:

    Hi - Thank you Thank you Thank you. I spent more than an hour trying to work out, and trying every combination, as to why the the DVD would not fit flush into the 5.25 bay. When you look at the hard drive bays, it seems logical to assume that the 5.25′ drives should have the brackets mounted the same way, but NO!

    Nil points for Antec’s naff instructions in the manual. A simple picture would suffice!

    My Antec P182 came with the extra fan but was not fitted, but cheers for the heads up.

    Top effort!

  8. 8 On March 1st, 2009, Todd said:

    God bless you and your wonderful digital pictures!! I was ready to toss my new P182 case out the window. I did the same thing - putting my mounting rails on backwards. It seems intuitive to mount them that way, and of course the manual is silent about what to do. Thanks to your blog, I got it straightened out.

  9. 9 On December 13th, 2009, Winter PC Cleaning » Alex Hopmann’s Blog said:

    [...] years ago I built my new workstation using top of the line parts of the day. At the time a 3ghz (overclocked to 3.66-4ghz) quad-core CPU with 4GB RAM was pretty much top of [...]

  10. 10 On July 28th, 2010, TTom said:

    Build a P182 recently and the manual is indeed terrible. But in the meantime Antec released the P183 which is almost identical. For that they have finally produced a good manual with pictures. It’s on the Antec website.

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